Sunday, October 15, 2006
Liberty Sunday - The Event - Live Blogging
The simulcast nature of this event makes it interesting, we are watching the opening on a TV between live speeches and video packages all evscreen just like everyone out there in the world. They will be switching back and forth between live speeches and video "packages" all evening.
After and intro by this church's pastor, first up - FRC president Tony Perkins, who, by the way, agreed to an Article VI interview today.
The first video package, along with the usual "one nation under God" stuff is discussing the story of Catholic Charities giving up adoption services in Mass. because if they continued to offer them, they would be forced to allow adoption to homosexual couples, they are right in pointing out the clash of homosexual liberty and religious liberty
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Now up, the Romney's - more when they are done.
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Governor Romney was impressive. More impressive; however, was the response of this at least half black, reasonably fundamentalist congregation to Romney. If the crowd is a measure, Romney has no Mormon problem.
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Romney emphasized, as is Dobson via video while I type, the importance of opposite sex parenting for children. Romney emphasized the clash of adult and children's "rights." This strikes me as a devestating arguement - it should appeal across the political specturm (remember that book by Hillary?)
Romney is now back because they lost the national feed and the crowd is on its feet again. Same speech. I am noting that he makes specific mention of the establishment clause, saying liberals claim the establishment of the religion of secularism. Nice work, he defends his faith situation while banging the libs at the same time.
He also calls for the federal defense of marriage amendment, thus nationalizing his speech. Again, brilliant politics.
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They are finally getting to the meat of matters, discussing how the homosexual agenda requires the restriction of politcal speech. they are marching through families that have tried to remove thier children from classes to avoid certain teaching and taking comment from leading conservative legal organizations.
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It does strike me as I listen to some of the preachers here that the parallels are stirking with the civil rights movement. Haivng been born in the south, I remember hearing sermons about the evil presented by the civil rights movement - those tunes changed as the civil rights movement gained ground. Civil action of this type does have an effect on religious statements. This effect is amplified in an age of hate crimes laws. There is of course this difference. The civil rights activists had a moral case on their side - the homosexual activists do not.
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After a few more preachers and videos, taking the podium is Alan Chambers of Exodus International, a Christian group that helps homosexuals overcome their temptation. While I have never heard Mr. Chambers before, I have heard similar testimonies. They are powerful and they are telling. The fact that people can and do "overcome" thier homosexuality says more about this dabate than almost any other fact. Mr. Chambers is powerfully pointing out, and he should know, how people on the other side of the debate are motivated in their shrillness by their internal conviction of their wrongness. They seek the power of government to overcome the moral reality of homosexual practice.
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It's ending - Final Comments: This was essentially a get out the vote rally for the eight states that have marriage definition amendments on the ballot in the upcoming elections. While I generally think such things should happen somewhere besides the church, the stories told here about the squelching of religious expression and personal choice concerning how children are educated is powerful stuff. I am stil not sure about church, but I am sure peopole of faith need to take this to heart and vote.
Related Tags: faith, homosexuality, religious expression, freedom
After and intro by this church's pastor, first up - FRC president Tony Perkins, who, by the way, agreed to an Article VI interview today.
The first video package, along with the usual "one nation under God" stuff is discussing the story of Catholic Charities giving up adoption services in Mass. because if they continued to offer them, they would be forced to allow adoption to homosexual couples, they are right in pointing out the clash of homosexual liberty and religious liberty
....
Now up, the Romney's - more when they are done.
...
Governor Romney was impressive. More impressive; however, was the response of this at least half black, reasonably fundamentalist congregation to Romney. If the crowd is a measure, Romney has no Mormon problem.
....
Romney emphasized, as is Dobson via video while I type, the importance of opposite sex parenting for children. Romney emphasized the clash of adult and children's "rights." This strikes me as a devestating arguement - it should appeal across the political specturm (remember that book by Hillary?)
Romney is now back because they lost the national feed and the crowd is on its feet again. Same speech. I am noting that he makes specific mention of the establishment clause, saying liberals claim the establishment of the religion of secularism. Nice work, he defends his faith situation while banging the libs at the same time.
He also calls for the federal defense of marriage amendment, thus nationalizing his speech. Again, brilliant politics.
....
They are finally getting to the meat of matters, discussing how the homosexual agenda requires the restriction of politcal speech. they are marching through families that have tried to remove thier children from classes to avoid certain teaching and taking comment from leading conservative legal organizations.
...
It does strike me as I listen to some of the preachers here that the parallels are stirking with the civil rights movement. Haivng been born in the south, I remember hearing sermons about the evil presented by the civil rights movement - those tunes changed as the civil rights movement gained ground. Civil action of this type does have an effect on religious statements. This effect is amplified in an age of hate crimes laws. There is of course this difference. The civil rights activists had a moral case on their side - the homosexual activists do not.
...
After a few more preachers and videos, taking the podium is Alan Chambers of Exodus International, a Christian group that helps homosexuals overcome their temptation. While I have never heard Mr. Chambers before, I have heard similar testimonies. They are powerful and they are telling. The fact that people can and do "overcome" thier homosexuality says more about this dabate than almost any other fact. Mr. Chambers is powerfully pointing out, and he should know, how people on the other side of the debate are motivated in their shrillness by their internal conviction of their wrongness. They seek the power of government to overcome the moral reality of homosexual practice.
...
It's ending - Final Comments: This was essentially a get out the vote rally for the eight states that have marriage definition amendments on the ballot in the upcoming elections. While I generally think such things should happen somewhere besides the church, the stories told here about the squelching of religious expression and personal choice concerning how children are educated is powerful stuff. I am stil not sure about church, but I am sure peopole of faith need to take this to heart and vote.
Related Tags: faith, homosexuality, religious expression, freedom